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The Mittani
Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.12.08 14:50:00 -
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Edited by: The Mittani on 08/12/2008 14:50:27 nostalgia is a fallacy in eve just as elsewhere; people revise history into a rosier picture than it was
in early 2006 there were four power blocs (soco, ra, d2, bob)
today there are four power blocks (rsf, nc, bob, aaa/se/rol)
while i think titan doomsdays are the stupidest addition to the game since the t2 bpo lottery, the core complaint of your op has nothing to do with 1. reality 2. titans or jump bridges
ps: this is actually a remarkably serious thread i don't know why i am adding to this disease with a real reply, must be slipping
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The Mittani
Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.12.08 15:12:00 -
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Originally by: Aceoil To destroy a power bloc, one has to think outside the blox.
or have bob help steal their targets
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The Mittani
Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.12.08 16:36:00 -
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Originally by: Aya Edited by: Aya on 08/12/2008 16:34:32
Originally by: The Mittani Edited by: The Mittani on 08/12/2008 14:50:27 nostalgia is a fallacy in eve just as elsewhere; people revise history into a rosier picture than it was
in early 2006 there were four power blocs (soco, ra, d2, bob)
today there are four power blocks (rsf, nc, bob, aaa/se/rol)
Ok mr. goonie I have drawn you a map to help explain this, because we all know goonswarm cannot read 
http://img132.imageshack.us/img132/9403/newmapyk2.jpg
P.S. now accepting job offers for my pro-paintshop abilities
man im glad someone from tri was able to teach me about 0.0 politics
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The Mittani
Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.12.08 16:39:00 -
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Originally by: Aya
Its not hard, 1. Blue everything in site (Goons already did this) 2. Call all your friends in a 30 man corp attacks you (Goons did this) 3. Smack on forums how elite your alliance is (Another check for goons)
I'd say you already have the politics down therefore I do not need to teach you much more
oh hey thank you maybe you can teach me how to improve my k/d ratio next   
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The Mittani
Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.12.08 16:51:00 -
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are you suggesting that goonswarm has no honor and blobs?
why
my god
i'd better quit the alliance right now
whats next, metagaming?
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The Mittani
Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.12.08 16:55:00 -
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ok so let me get this straight
goodfellas and tri are itt whining about powerblocs and napfests
yet they only have their space on account of being bob-installed pets
live by the sword, etc
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The Mittani
Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.12.08 16:57:00 -
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Originally by: Heath Ledger Well I would argue that although no one cares about the drone regions, the folks out there are a third power bloc as well.
Not that that in any way helps, but just something to think about.
that's the expanded RA + independent oligarchs bloc (death and mactep's crew)
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The Mittani
Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.12.08 16:58:00 -
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Originally by: attitude man
Originally by: The Mittani ok so let me get this straight
goodfellas and tri are itt whining about powerblocs and napfests
yet they only have their space on account of being bob-installed pets
live by the napland, etc
fix for u
ok im glad we cleared that up
next time don't be pets
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The Mittani
Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.12.08 17:20:00 -
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Edited by: The Mittani on 08/12/2008 17:20:54
Originally by: Wesley Baird
Please try and stay on topic, if you feel the game is heading in the right direction fine, make that statement. If you believe changes to various mechanics can improve the game for the better for most people post your idea's...if you will notice, some people who are enjoying the success of their respective powerblocs have posted great ideas and suggestions rather than played the political game.
the core assumption of the topic has been debunked (4 powerblocs in 2006, 4 powerblocs in 2008)
all that remains is to point out the motivation behind those whining the loudest itt (tri, goodfellas) and expose the real issue: they are upset about losing their space.
my position re: titan doomsdays being dumb is hardly a new contribution, the best fleet slugfest we've had in ages was in vng when titans were broken due to a bug, it was a massive battle with tremendous casualties and no one-click fight enders
edit: IMPORTANT UPDATE: ~fart~
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The Mittani
Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.12.08 18:37:00 -
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Originally by: Wesley Baird
Originally by: The Mittani
the core assumption of the topic has been debunked (4 powerblocs in 2006, 4 powerblocs in 2008)
I disagree as all four you indicated are in fact aligned down the middle...meaning we have a GBC side of things and a Goons/NC side of things.
I suspect that relatively soon there could very well be one aligned side with the other broken. I hope this is not the case, but I cannot see how the GBC side of things can withstand the combined power of Goons/NC powerbloc. NC alone can field 200+ dreads, combine that with the large capital fleet of the Goons and Drone regions and you have a capital fleet that is unstoppable.
I don't want to derail this thread, as the discussion for the most part has been excellent! I hope CCP is reading!
the biggest issue regarding the extended lifespan of a powerbloc revolves around how well set up their 'core space' is in terms of sov4 and outposts
you'll find that the core areas of the primary blocs have layered sov4 and serious investment in infrastructure
due to the way cyno jammers and sov4 works, the major blocs mostly scuffle in the outlying border areas. the combination of sov4, jammers and doomsdays/remote ecm gives heavy advantages to a defender
therefore, regions people don't care about that much get traded and fought over extensively, but the core territories of the blocs don't change much because they're a proverbial brick wall: delve is a fortress, ten/det is likewise, and I'm sure that the same goes for the core RA and RZR territories
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The Mittani
Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.12.08 19:02:00 -
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Originally by: Han Lector Blue standings should cost ISK, like empire war does. You can set a corp or alliance blue, but you will have to pay fee for each pilot in that corp/alliance. That would make blue standings temporary and it would prevent NAPfests.
diplomacy is part of the game, cope
we do
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